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I really don’t get all that aggression towards Elsa and I admit I’m kind of uncomfortable with it.
I mean, I do enjoy seeing some of the degradation, but only as a fantasy thing.

I can’t help but think that the aggression against characters like Elsa and Astrid exists because they are both powerful and confident women and that some guys have a problem dealing with that.

Not that I’m an SJW, god knows I wouldn’t be here reading this comic and the other shit I follow on HF and elsewhere, but none of that has to do with having a problem with powerful females.

Thank you for commenting and for the excellent feedback. I complete understand about not being comfortable with some of the subject matter in The Manor. It is series that might not be for everyone.

I can’t speak for most people online but I can a sure you that the only reason I draw the character I draw is because I am fond of them. It is not that aggression that is exciting but the parody of the situations that the characters are in. I am not sure if that makes sense but there you have it. You might find it funny to note that someone describe my comic as being VERY NSFW, make me think that even NSFW people would be like ” what the F is this shit?” lol :). Degradation beside, what do you think of the comic?
Cheers
D.

There is no problem here.
Strong-willed characters are always interesting, and therefore loved by audience, regardless of characters’ gender and genre.
Or what, if this comic’s heroines where weak and unconfident, there would have been no so-called problem?

โ€œI mean, I do enjoy seeing some of the degradation, but only as a fantasy thing.โ€
Donโ€™t worry friend, itโ€™s still a comic ๐Ÿ˜›

And of course humiliation favours strong independant women. The entire point of this fetish is to, well, humiliate. So someone who would never sink that low is much more arousing to see in such a position that someone who is already weak-willed or submissive to begin with. ๐Ÿ™‚

– Desp

I agree somewhat with botc76 โ€” some humiliation is enjoyable. But the thing that drives most any good story and storytelling, no matter how deliciously dark, is what could be variously called a goal or hope. At some point, there has to be a crack in the forces of evil, even if it’s a false and deceptive one that deals the heroines a reverser, which in traditional story structuring is typically the low point of the second act before the hero or heroine digs deep for one more fight or sees a way through to a satisfying climax (in this case, perhaps literally!) Otherwise the story risks possibly degenerating into a soulless or soul-crushing tragedy. Sometimes though Twilight Zone episodes (both the 1959 original series and the 1985 and 2002 revivals) featured the heros/ines surrendering to the dark side. That can be interesting and enjoyable, too.

One thing I would kind of like to see is either Astrid or Elsa or preferably both compelled to start enjoying the distasteful sex they’re being subject to, ashamed at first as they begin finding themselves orgasming to it, but either possibly later tempted to crave it, even ask for it, or surrender to it. You’ve also perhaps missed an opportunity on this page by not having evil Anna pleasure herself with her sister, either forcing her sister to eat her out, or maybe laying Elsa flat and tribading her or something, with Elsa shocked the whole time as her sister orgasms.

But one way or another, Elsa and Astrid should begin enjoying themselves, either ashamed at it or finding themselves drawn ‘Twilight Zone’ style over to the pleasures the dark side is offering the others as well. That would add a level of complexity and plot possibilities that would render the overall comic less predictable as each scene progresses. And this scene fades out somewhat like Astrid’s with Violet/the Greenskeeper, with some of the sexual possibilities almost faded out on like an old PG-rated love scene. Please play out the sex as well as the humiliation, otherwise it just leaves the scenes feeling perhaps rushed or incomplete.

“I mean, I do enjoy seeing some of the degradation, but only as a fantasy thing.”
Don’t worry friend, it’s still a comic ๐Ÿ˜›

And of course humiliation favours strong independant women. The entire point of this fetish is to, well, humiliate. So someone who would never sink that low is much more arousing to see in such a position that someone who is already weak-willed or submissive to begin with. ๐Ÿ™‚

With Anna saying that Elsa’s royal status kept her from being at the very bottom of the totem pole (even though she isn’t far from it) it makes me wonder how the hierarchy works here. Do you “rank up” the longer you’ve been there/perform better/lose yourself to the lust?

And great comic! Love how the expressions clearly portray the character’s feelings towards what’s happening.

How dare you using Disney story for drawing is Disgusting art !?!?!? You should be ashamed of yourself !!! I wish you go the Hell !!!!

lol. You should slow down before you start typing as you messed up some of your english. I think it is “how dare you use disney characters (I substituted character for story, it just makes more sense that way.) for your disgusting art.” I sadly can’t be ashamed of myself as I think it will hamper my drawing and I am glad you want me to go to the hell although it should be “I wish you go to hell!”.

I just wanted to mentions that if you post comments like this towards other people on this website. I will ban you.

Cheers
Dis.

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